Malachi Report This Comment Date: February 28, 2011 07:19AM
If you supported Obama then watch this.....
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jgoins Report This Comment Date: February 28, 2011 12:43PM
I don't like Odamna at all but just bringing our troops home and staying within
our borders minding our own business is not an answer. Isolationism will only
get us more 911s. Maybe if we attack a country we should just devastate it and
get out or if we stay there claim it for our own. The idea of repairing the
country we defeated and giving it back to them is just pain stupid. Turn the
other cheek and get the other side slapped. If you want us to come home and
secure our borders fine but throw out all the illegals who are already here too.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: February 28, 2011 02:13PM
isolationism is not the answer, but tricking more libs into voting for you
under the pretence that you actually give a fuck about the people is brilliant.
it seems RP is just another B.S. artist like the rest. Barry can't get any of
his campaign promises done because he isn't the president, the Bilderbergs etc.
are the real puppetmasters.
color me up on my handful of change.
edit: brilliant = same shit different puppet
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 28/02/2011 02:30PM by fossil_digger.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: February 28, 2011 02:51PM
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: February 28, 2011 03:12PM
It really doesn't matter what you think of Obozo, either Bush, Clinton or any
other administration. The simple reality is we have in the past, and continue
today, to enter into and propagate unconstitutional military actions on foreign
soil.
America has never lost a war. We've prevailed in every war that congress ever
used its authority to declare. This truth is also tempered with the reality
that no military action we've undertaken since WWII was ever declared by
congress to BE a war.
Goins comments above encouraged a bit of reflection on the concept of
isolationism.
Pulling out of the 700 or so locations across the globe where we have military
installations and bringin all our military home is not an isolationist idea,
it's a constitutional one. Thankfully it goes even further in the plus category
as it also removes our military members from the positions they occupy in harms
way abroad, saves our national budget huge sums of $$ that's being paid to other
countries to have these installations on their soil, prevents our military
salaries abroad from being also spent in those countries (which helps their
economies, while depleting our own) and removes the argument from those who
claim we can't defend our borders.
In a time where the US faces the most grave financial crisis in our history,
defenders of our military actions claim the costs to our national budget are
only "a drop in the bucket" in the overall picture, to which I raise
the Bull Shit Flag waaaay high!
Try tellin such BS to the American families who've had to tighten their
financial belts by such "drop in the bucket" actions to their own
budgets in these times just so they can make it through the mess and see if you
can find agreement that eliminating unnecessary expenses doesn't help.
Any politician who can straight faced stand and tell us these are only
"drops in a bucket" and have no impact financially have no right to a
single American vote as they not only are flat out lying, but obviously do not
have a grip on the concept of Constitutional governance and principles thereof
And to fossil: If you can back up your assertions about RP above, please do so.
If you can find a single congressional vote he's placed where it was shown to
be in favor of an unconstitutional amendment, please provide it for our
edification. Or if you can even find one issue where his stance has waffled one
way or the other, please show evidence of that as well.
RP is the only politician I know of who unequivocally says and does the same
consistently and never casts votes nor gives support to anything that is either
unconstitutional or serves to take away rights of American citizens outlined by
the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.
Sure the prez powers are limited (less more so today then ever, but that's
another huge topic altogether!), but if you truly believe that then you'd also
have to ask how then did Obozo manage to enact so many changes the US electorate
stood in opposition to if he does NOT have a significant amount of influence
over what congress enacts?
In Obozos case that influence comes from political arm twisting, behind the
scenes manipulation of support for his proposals, telling the dem congressional
causcus they must support his agenda (which cost lots of them their seats in the
last election) and through flat out lies to the American people,
Just my opinion, but I god damned well own it in saying that, NO I do not
believe RP is just more of the same, but a breath of fresh air and political
sanity that certainly knows what's needed to put our government back on track to
live within its means and powers as enumerated by the Constitution
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Mach Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 01:47AM
Mrkim, thank you, that was downright American.
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"...but tricking more libs into voting for you under the pretence that you
actually give a fuck about the people is brilliant. it seems RP is just another
B.S. artist like the rest."
- fossil
fossil, yes, Ron Paul came up with the idea and made that video up there (in his
spare time, in his basement), you caught him once again, you just can't be
fooled, can you?
Bad try.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 02:16AM
lemme guess, you AND Kim think that by some incredible super human reasoning,
that RP would be any different than any other weasel dick politician? the fruit
loops just keep comin'
now this is where you guys give me the "how he votes" bullshit. fools.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 02:25AM
time to put your monkey where your mouse is boys;
i think $5/bet is affordable
1. he will not get the nomination.
2. if he does miraculously gets elected, he will not follow through on 1 of his
"promises" (just like every other weasel cock).
3. unemployment will rise because of his crazy ass "world vision".
4. he will be so busy fighting the unions and libtards so much, he won't have
time to take a piss much less run the country.
you may add others for consideration
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Mach Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 02:50AM
I know how things really work fossil, let's put it this way, if Ron Paul would
be elected President and nothing changed at all, then we would be.... right
where we are now.
So, you try to blow him off so we can just put another outright puppet in there
instead huh? Bad try.
I'm nothing like the Obama followers, I'm not sold on shit-talk, to hell with
what any of them SAY, it's what they DO that counts and Ron Paul is on the top
of the list as far as doing what he says he's going to and that alone is worth
GOLD.
Mach Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 03:05AM
By the way... Isolationism?
You guys are reaching so far that you are making yourselves stick out like turds
in punch bowls. Or should I say... beating a dead horse... with a stick.
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fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 03:05AM
so you're too chicken to put 20 bucks on that? or maybe add in some more bets?
bock bock bock buckack!
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 03:33AM
here's another bet for consideration: if he runs against Barry, it'll be the
biggest landslide in presidential history, not in RP's favor. ($5)
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 04:24AM
50% of the bets your wantin are sucker bets and the other 2 make it all a wash,
so what would be the point?
1. he will not get the nomination.
Sadly, I problee hafta agree, but not because he's not qualified, nor because I
don't think he'd make a good prez. I agree because he represents just as big a
threat to them as he does to the libs/dems, and they damned well know it.
2. if he does miraculously gets elected, he will not
follow through on 1 of his "promises" (just like every other weasel
cock).
You might believe that, but not me.
3. unemployment will rise because of his crazy ass
"world vision".
Sucker bet for sure. Hell yeah, if he disemboweled the unconstitutional DOH,
DOE, IRS, and the other agencies he's been on record as wanting to eliminate
there would be a shitload of overpaid govt workers whose gravy train ride would
come to a screechin halt. BTW, seems like just eliminating the DOE alone would
be a bigger cut in federal spending than all the crap the current congress is
wranglin over, but jeez buckwheat, why should we be concerned about a totally
unconstitutional agency that manages to burn through more than $100 billion
annually while being totally ineffective. Jeez, that's only a TRILLION$$$ over
ten years, so why sweat about the small shit, right?
4. he will be so busy fighting the unions and
libtards so much, he won't have time to take a piss much less run the
country.
Here again, we disagree. He'd be busy alright, no doubt, and his hands would be
waay full for sure, but I don't think that would prevent him from makin useful,
realistic and beneficial changes to the current BS system that's bein passed off
as government. At this point ANYTHING he would move toward could only be an
improvement
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 04:28AM
looks like there are 2 hens in the hen house.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: March 01, 2011 12:37PM
If we were to bring the vast numbers of military stationed overseas home, where
would we put them? I think if we were to bring them all home then so many of
them would be discharged early and will have to reenter the work force which
would vastly increase unemployment making our economy even more disastrous.
I neither like nor dislike Ron Paul but I do have to agree with Fossil in that I
think he would be no different than any other president and basically do
nothing. Anyone thinking he will get rid of IRS is living in a dream world, I
wish someone would but it just ain't gonna happen, they are too big and
powerful.
All I can say is it is a good theing the world is gonna end in 2012 so we don't
have to see what's comin next.
fossl digger Report This Comment Date: March 02, 2011 08:02AM
You want to die? It's a free country.......
jgoins Report This Comment Date: March 02, 2011 02:43PM
Don't want to but not worried about it if I do.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 03, 2011 04:49AM
tsk tsk schmuck.
Mach Report This Comment Date: March 03, 2011 08:30AM
Here fossil, this will straighten everything out, maybe you can learn
something, and yes, he does text better than me. I told my uncle before...
"your government is NOT your country."
[
www.independent.org]
I've posted some of Higgs stuff in the past around here....
[
www.lewrockwell.com]
"For example, for many years, a single congressman from northeastern
Pennsylvania — first Dan Flood and then Joe McDade — substantially enriched
the anthracite coal interests of that region by inserting a brief, one-paragraph
limitation rider in the annual appropriations act for the Department of Defense.
The upshot of this obscure provision was that Pennsylvania anthracite was
transported to Germany to provide heating fuel for U.S. military bases that
could have been heated more cheaply by using local resources. (
We pay
either way - Mach) This coals-to-Newcastle shenanigan was a classic sneak-thief
gambit, a thing of legislative beauty, but every year's budget contains
thousands of schemes that operate with similar effect, if not in an equally
audacious manner."
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jgoins Report This Comment Date: March 03, 2011 12:09PM
Is that rider not called pork? Maybe that is why the middle east hates us, our
love of pork in congress.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: March 03, 2011 02:38PM
so now
I need to learn something?
alllllllllrightythen.
jgoins Report This Comment Date: March 05, 2011 11:01AM
There will always be war and some profit from conflict so what? As long as
humans remain on this planet there will always be wars utopia cannot be reached
by mankind.