pulse Report This Comment Date: January 26, 2009 12:16PM
Indeed! Happy Australia Day. How'd you spend yours?
I spent mine chronically hung over & vomiting for the first few hours of
it.
I don't know why I do these things to myself...
quasi Report This Comment Date: January 26, 2009 12:25PM
Happy Australia Day to our friends from down under!
SkullandChains Report This Comment Date: January 26, 2009 05:47PM
Posted by: pulse
I spent mine chronically hung over & vomiting for the first few hours of it.
I don't know why I do these things to myself...
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Same reason I do it. It's fuckin fun the night before.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: January 26, 2009 09:08PM
It's not everybody on this side of the globe - NZ's national day is next Friday
Feb 6.
I spent Australia day with my girl, and then watched the Aussie cricket team get
thrashed my the Jaapies!
Anony Mouse Report This Comment Date: January 27, 2009 12:16AM
Gees, isn't it about time we got rid of that bloody flag with the flag of a
foreign nation in the top left corner, AND GET OURSELVES A PROPER ONE!!!
woberto Report This Comment Date: January 27, 2009 06:29AM
No, it isn't.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 27, 2009 03:30PM
lets just se how the Aussies like it when someone wants to change theeeeeir
flag. uh huh
pulse Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 12:41AM
It'll happen. KRudd (or Mr Sheen as I call him) is going for the republic
agenda again.
I've got no issues with going for a republic, but not in the manor they
suggested last time. We were given a vote
1) Keep everything as it is
2) Remove the Queen as head of state, to be replaced by a President chosen by
parliament
No thanks.
I'd rather vote for a president myself...
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 01:44AM
Australia needs to divorce "the crown"/parliament government and
vote.
-fossil_digger
woberto Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 07:06AM
The current system works just as well as any proposed presidential heads of
state. Why change it?
When the time comes, a completely new form of government will take over. We just
have to wait.
As for the flag, it would be an insult to everyone who has risked thier lives in
it's name, to change it.
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 09:43AM
Sorry berto, but I got to call you on that last comment. What a load of crap.
The diggers, and more recent soldiers, didn't fight for a piece of cloth or even
the design on that piece of cloth. They fought for what it stood for, and any
new flag would still represent that.
woberto Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 11:25AM
People like you are the reason the Anzus treaty exists.
Mrkim Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 01:53PM
"Piece of cloth" ????? Dunno about anyone or anywhere else, and most
certainly won't make any effort to speak for them, but our flag certainly means
more than that to me
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 28, 2009 05:04PM
HAfuckin'RUMPF!!
GAK67 Report This Comment Date: January 29, 2009 12:57AM
Please don't get me wrong and think I am unpatriotic. I am as proud as anyone
when I see the NZ flag, but I am proud of my country, not necessarily the flag.
I would be just as patriotic if the flag was changed as it's only a symbol of
the country, not the country itself. I personally think that the Union Jack
should go from the corner of our flag, and NZ is nowhere near as far down the
republic road as Australia is, but as a friend of mine said the other day, how
do you come to a concensus on what to replace it with and is it worth wasting
the money on the consultation and design process?
pulse Report This Comment Date: January 29, 2009 03:28AM
That's the thing. I don't want to confuse what the flag stands for with a cheap
plastic flag bought at K Mart.
What our flag represents is a great thing. A nation with a colourful past, but
full of character and good things these days. This will not change if you alter
the design of the flag.
A physical flag though, is as GAK said, just a piece of cloth. Or plastic. And
probably made in China. Nobody's ever died for a flag, they've died for what the
flag represents. For that, they should be honoured.
I'm not saying whether I think the flag should be changed; it's part of our
heritage, our history - but also if we remove the Queen as our head of state I
see no real reason for the Union Jack to occupy the top left quadrant - so
frankly I can see both sides to that coin.
I just don't want to see a day when our President is decided via a
non-democratic parliamentary nomination. If a president is meant to represent
the people, then he/she can be fuckin' chosen by the people. (edit: not that
this system worked at the last election, but anyway..)
Flag issues always reminds me of a Bill Hicks quote. I'll paste it, stolen
mostly verbatim from another website.
Quote
Bill
Hicks
Did you watch the flag burning thing? Wasn't that great man? Boy everybody
showed their true colours then didn't they?....Scary... People just flipped,
they reacted like The Supreme Court approved of flag burning, know what I
mean?
" Does that mean we have to burn our flags?.. They said that we
ha-"... NO NO NO NO NO NO, they didn't say that. They said that if someone
wanted to burn a flag, he perhaps doesn't need to go to jail for a year...Pretty
harsh on their part huh?
"They said we should bur-".... They didn't say that, they didn't say
that, they didn't say that
"Does that mean I have to go and -"....NO NO NO NO NO NO NO... Listen,
read , think, calm down, relax, SHUT THE FUCK UP
"Well I don't get it..I don't wanna burn my flag"....THEN
DOOOOOOOOOOON'T.
People snapped, they were like "Hey buddy, my dad died for that
flag"
"Really?...I bought mine...They sell 'em in K-Mart..."
"yeah..He died in Korea for that flag"
"Wow, what a coincidence. Mine was made in Korea... the world is THAT big
man..."
No-one, and I repeat NO-ONE has ever died for a flag. A flag is a piece of
cloth, they might have died for freedom, which, by the way, is the freedom
to....Burn the.. fucking flag you see??..Burning the flag doesn't make freedom
go away, it's kinda like Free-dom ok?..ok.
And they've had 4 cases in this country's 200 year history, so it's not that big
an issue. One of the hotter smokescreens they've put down the pipe. I don't
wanna burn a flag, but what business is it of mine if you do?
Is it my business if someone wants to..Is it?...NO
Is it my business what other people read or watch on TV? NO IT'S NOT...THANK
YOU
You see, when we talk these things through, it becomes a little clearer doesn't
it? That's called logic and it'll help us all evolve and get on the fucking
spaceships and get outta here.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 29/01/2009 03:31AM by pulse.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 29, 2009 05:24AM
so i can stand right in front of you and burn an Australian flag, stamping on
it, spitting, and you will just say
ni ?!?!
(shaking head in shame)
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 29/01/2009 05:25AM by fossil_digger.
pulse Report This Comment Date: January 29, 2009 10:22PM
Uuh.. yes actually. I don't have to agree with you doing it, I don't have to
like it, but what business is it of mine if you do it? I also don't particularly
want to watch you grease yourself up in baby oil and walk down the street
rubbing against lamp posts. But is it my business if that's what you're
into?
As Bill was saying in his rant, I also believe that it shouldn't be a jailable
offence should you do so. Anyway, that's not why I pasted the quote, the main
part was the "dying for the flag" part.
So I'll repeat my earlier statement..
Quote
me
NOBODY has ever died for a flag. They've died for what it represents. And for
that, they should be honoured.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 29/01/2009 10:24PM by pulse.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 29, 2009 11:53PM
aaaaaalrighty then.
quasi Report This Comment Date: January 30, 2009 02:37AM
Gee, thanks a lot for
that visual, pulse.
Somebody wrap that oiley man up in a flag before I puke.
zxz555 Report This Comment Date: January 30, 2009 12:03PM
That's called logic and it'll help us all evolve and get on the fucking
spaceships and get outta here.
The spaceships are the meaning of life at this point in human civilization, but
what flag are we to fly from it? I know it will have Union flag (that's Jack to
you) on it, but what else? Some stars, and a something else. Photoshop here I
come!
woberto Report This Comment Date: January 30, 2009 12:20PM
Damn, even I'm getting lost on this thread.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: January 30, 2009 05:00PM
i like
these
pulse Report This Comment Date: January 31, 2009 12:37AM
The last two look like a Subaru badge
woberto Report This Comment Date: February 01, 2009 04:17AM
Oh I nearly forgot...