jgoins said : There are many of us who wouldn't even care if it was total lies as long as we can remove Saddam from Iraq.

... so the ends really /do/ justify the means, regardless of how we managed to do it? Interesting.

jgoins : There are many of us who understand the need for having a strong prescence in Iraq. All one has to do is look at a map of the region to see why we need to be there. The picture is much bigger than Iraq alone. There is more going on in the middle east you people are afraid to admit.

... so why are we in Iraq then? What is going on in the M.E.?
The way I heard it, we had a presence in the M.E. (or is it West Asia?) back some time ago, and the Al Qaeda types got their start by bombing our shit in their land (well, after we trained them to kick the Russians out of Af'stan). After some successes (eg. the Beirut bombing) they ramped up and figured they could take us on.

... so now we're back over there, in force, converting new generations to terrorism and guerilla warfare, and spreading bomb-making skills amongst the populations.

... so why are we over there again?