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Re: Image comments for Carl Dix speaking in Jena City Park
Posted by: Mrkim
Date: 24/01/2008 03:31AM
The flies in your ointment are that exploitation, racism, and the will to succeed by ones own merits are all a part of human nature and can not be willed away or wished into non-existence by any form of social structuring or governmental dogmatic policies either. My submission is that these ARE hardwired factors of the human condition and no amount of Polly Annaish, rose colored glasses vision techniques you can impart are going to make them magically disappear.

It's not that it's impossible to sell this dream to those who feel down trodden, discriminated or feel as if their current piece of the pie isn't a fair share in their eyes as there will always be droves of such sheep to back such a move to "make it all a more level playing field" (<-in THEIR eyes).

The problem, and the thorns in the side of any such movement, the hard sells for this program are the ones at the top of their game, the ones driven by their own merits and the rewards this avails them who like myself ask WTF right anyone has to expect the world itself and society to change because they see their own position in it and cry "Foul"!

The problem Communism has with the individual is that we are NOT created nor imbued with the same gifts or abilities and suppression of the human spirit for the need or will of the masses would always be a problem for those who are free thinkers or possesors of the entepreneurial spirit that allows them to thrive in a free society. And ... lest you start some diatribe about how your proposed system IS free, let me ask just how free it would be when suppression of human will and nature is a very by-law of how your ideologies would be to HAVE to work ?

Now for some direct answers to your own thoughts :
" is saying that we commies are lazy; don't want to do work, is that what you are saying? how can we build a better world if we don't work for it? no communists(not revionists or phony communists) are willing to do alot of work, because that is what is neccessary-the transformation of neccessity- for improvement.

What I said, and meant, is that this ideology will always find acceptance by people who see their own position as less than fair and through embracement of such a system as Communism would be more fair or equal again, "in their eyes".

Would it take a lot of work to overturn the current system and implement such a societal change as what this would mean? The short answer is HELL YEAH !

The longer and more realistic answer is that for many free thinking individuals this will never be a sale and under your posed system that would make us criminals as our own thoughts would be contrary to the "greater good". Hence oppression ensues as people like myself would of necessity NEED to be put down, shut up and hidden from the public view to help keep your mindless little bubble from being threatened by my own and others like myself(s) words, actions and yes, even thoughts as these would be deemed poisonous fruits in your garden.

"if a house needs to be built it will be built, but instead of the people who actually build it being paid only enough to barely support themselves and produce a new generation of workers to be exploited in the same way, and all of their unpaid labor goes to the contractors and managers and then the house is sold at a ridiculous rate so none of the workers that built that house could ever afford to live in it, the workers will be paid fairly, the house will be sold at a reasonable price... and not for money either, but rather based on the idea of "each according to their need, according from their abbility"

Now we're gettin to where the rubber really meets the road ! WHO will decide when this house will need to be built, WHO will decide the amenities of this house and by WHAT standards can such a decision become or be fair? Who will decide the "fair wage" to be paid the workers, much less the fair price for the finished home? Lastly WHO will decide individuals needs FOR them or the value of THEIR abilities in this society you propose ?

The answer is one this dogmatic BS always prefers to avoid : the leaders of "the movement", that's who ! My query is why would anyone want such decisions to be made FOR them as opposed to BY them ? At least in a free market society one has the ability to succeed or fail on their own merits and NEVER to have such decisions made for them at whatever costs so it can all be for the "greater good" of those with lesser drive, ability or skills.

You can consult whatever volume of Communistic reasoning/logic you like and spout it from every vantage point imaginable but the real thinkers and doers of the world will never embrace, it no matter how hard you try and sell it because THEY are the ones who would be oppressed by its implementation.

Oh ... I did leave out one sub-segment of the above mentioned group. Those looking to use such an ideology to empower their own agendas or better their position by utilizing the will of their driven masses as tool to achieve such goals will always be at the forefront of such movements and always withe the "betterment of their fellow man" as their stated motivation with the unstated motivation always being POWER !

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