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Re: Image comments for Beast from the sea
Posted by: shaDEz
Date: 28/10/2008 10:10AM
bleh... started to read all of that and then quit (sorry, I'm hella busy right now, I'll try to read it all later... maybe)

but I gotta warn yall fellow atheists (despite there apparently is a ton we disagree on) to not spend too much time arguing with these creationist loonies. They do not have an argument. Until they can provide us with proof that their god(s), or "higher power" or whatever the fuck they call it, exists... that will require material evidence that can be tested, verified, and proven (or disproven - which is what they will likely find out just as Darwin did actually when he found material evidence verifying evolution which ran contrary to creationists myths to be actuality. Darwin originally went to South America to attempt to disprove the early evolutionists theories that creationism myths were just that: myths). On the other hand evidence (materialist) has been brought to the table that proves evolution is real, just because the masses understanding science has become a problem for the ruling class, which became a fetter on the French (bourgeois) Revolution (see Engels' Socialism: Utopian and Scientific) and now fetters the U.S. program does not mean that all of a sudden it becomes untrue (which is the pragmatists, or "Bushists", imposing ignorance of science and philosophical-idealism and religion on the masses; the phenomenon of said quality). In the beginning science was essential for their revolution, but by the transformation in society, that became problematic for them to continue this monopoly of power, their dictatorship and so now they gotta say that it wasn't so. The brits knew better than this from the beginning and you can see both the French and the Brits models in the U.S. coming into antagonism... perhaps unintentional? but can't help to be awed by this... (again check out Socialism: Utopian and Scientific) Am I coming off as making any sense or not? (lol)

this is a nice read, although I personally find it for the most part a bit underneath my understanding (what I've read of it thus far anyways), but may be a good read to present a youth struggling with this silliness
The Science of Evolution and The Myth of Creationism
and there is a ton more info via the web about evolution and a really neat one called The Tree Of Life Project that show our actual family tree (instead of that Adam begot forty men leading up to Jesus bullshit you can read about in the Judeo-Xtian mythos book, the Bible)

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