I think Quasi wrote that late at night, when he shouldn't have, so it's not clear.

Regards culture, I was first exposed to firearms when my family bought a farm. I never thought of owning one until then. I never thought of being a gangster as study and work is more logical, when you have the Living Wages Case we do in Australia - something yanks have been demanding we undo as it doesn't shovel wealth up the ladder. They always invent faux moral arguments to justify that. Really, I recommend you adopt that court ruling.

Culture again: in Australia and New Zealand good hunting is one bullet one animal, not five bullets one animal. I've used semi-automatic and don't mind it. I don't care if a magazine has 30 rounds. I don't want the firearm represented by those buses above (if you have a metals manufacturing background, look up an animated schematic of how it works, if not, just ask New Zealand hunters about what they derisively call the "AK15" - and they only allowed the long barrel edition!). In the civilised world 'the more the hype the less the substance' is clearly understood. The yank pretend education system leaves its victims susceptible to marketing. That piece of junk has the weight of marketing behind it, so much that I can almost hear them praying I will love that firearm. I won't. I don't want one.

Riddle this: Beretta sell the CX4 in 9mm and .40, in 9mm it can take heavy 135gn projectiles. Both are cheaper than .3030. If your range is 100m show me the animal a .3030 can knock down but a .40 can't. Almost everyone I spoke to who spent time over there talked of marketing and the .3030, when 9mm and .40 are cheaper to run.

Personally I would prefer knurled aluminium or carbon fibre to polymer and an upped twist rate but, swings and roundabouts, some may disagree.