Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 10:43AM
Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you
hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other.
- George Orwell
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 03:04PM
WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. - Also George Orwell.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 03:08PM
The problem with this "logic" is that the war in Iraq is complete
shit that has nothing to do with the attacks of 9/11. That idiot and his
cronies lept at the chance to atack Iraq for both his sick Oedipal fulfillment
and because we as Americans let him and his administration lead us and the rest
of the world into this mess with erronious "intelegence." Four years
later and where is Bin Laden? Yes, fantastic, a horrible leader is out of power
in Iraq, but is a better one in place? We helped establish leaders in the
middle east in the 70s and 80s as well and where did it get us? We ended up
with a well armed dictator named Saddam Hussein. It's just one big shitty
cycle.
Besides there's a huge difference between Orwell's UK of WWII and our time now.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 03:31PM
Best comedy poem I have read in awhile.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 04:33PM
Peace is just War by another name
Source.... Unknown
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 06:20PM
No your ignorance is not strength but is instead a fine example of what our
govt. does each and every day. That quote "War is peace. . ." is not
from Orwell but from his novel 1984. He didn't say it the novel did.
Furthermore, read the fucking novel or at least rent the damn movie. That is an
example of "Newspeak" it is meant to be a contradicting statement made
by a fucked up government.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 06:30PM
Funny thing is that just like most of Ws life, this poem is just propaganda to
hide his lack of achievement.
Failed as a student. Failed as a businessman. Failed as a Chief executive.
cesiuminjector Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 07:24PM
if his objective is to make iraq a democratic nation - i say go for it. There
has never been a war between two truly democratic nations. What Bush is doing
now may prevent something far worse in the future.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: December 05, 2005 08:16PM
cesiuminjector
You mean having many 9-11s would be better than a war that had never happened
before.
No muslim nation had committed a military act against the US vs. creating
resentment by muslims around the world thus fueling more 9-11 events ?
That is what a truly stupid person would think.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 06, 2005 05:04AM
WELL SHIT! let's just release Saddam, apologize to him, rebuild his castles and
rape rooms, pay him for the loss of his sons, restart the oil for food program,
he will need money that to pull his shit back together, then stick our head in
the sand on a sunlit beach in Santa Monaca, problem solved...Come on Lib's push
for it!!Remember the good old days of Viet Nam..
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 06, 2005 05:33AM
Boy, aDCBeast sure has his head up his ass don't he. He is obviously a
commiepinkofag sympathyser. Obviously never been beatup by anybody and if he
was would probably just sit there and whine and say "hey, come beat me up
again, I'm bad and deserve to get beat up."
We know what Clinton did in Somalia, cut and run like a coward. no balls.
Like a typical liberal, cut and run. No pride in themselves or their country.
You people need to get a little pride in your country and your freedom. Stop
trying to tear this country down so it will be equal to those third world
countries. Yes the US is arrogant, Yes the US is proud, Yes the us is assertive
with democracy, hell, is there anything out there that is any better? This is
not a war against Muslims, this is a war against candyass chickens that hide
behind the cloak of religeon. This is not the first time a powerful religeous
order has killed people because they would not accept the religeon. If you want
an eyeopener, read Fox's book of Martyrs. An estimated 50 to 150 million died
at the hand of the Roman church as it swept thru Europe "converting"
people to their brand of Christianity. It was illegal to own a Holy Bible.
Punishable by death.
That does not make Christianity bad, it makes the system that forces by death
the evil one. Just like the radical Muslims. Its not the general muslim
population that is doing all the bombing and killing, it is the Radical
Leadership and a very small percentage of followers. So do we let them get away
with it? Not any more than we did Hitler and his ilk.
Wake up and live.
aDCBeast Report This Comment Date: December 06, 2005 06:51AM
Anonymous@159239
Your pride is leading you into trouble. Don't feel bad. Many men have fallen
victim to their pride before.
Al Qeada has nothing to do with Islam. Zip. Nada.
Al Qeada is the group the CIA taught to fight the russians. Then the CIA failed
to deliver on promises made to these people.
Clinton cut and ran because Somalia was not worth fighting for. Clinton saw that
losing 1 battle didn't mean dick.
Anonymous@238240
Well considering Iraq was a disorganized 3rd world country when Saddam ruled.
And there were no laws preventing what occured. What is there to charge Saddam
with ? Did he actually commit the murders ? Nope.
Alright propaganda believers ... Since you know so much about Iraqi history. The
shiite militia groups in the south of Iraq. They did the same things that Saddam
charged with doing. Did the US sham court charge them too ? NOOOOOO... Them
fucking employed them as part of the Iraqi military force. Hmmmmm.. There seems
to be a double stand here.
Ayad Allawi the interim prime minister of Iraq was responsible for carrying out
some terrible acts as an Iraqi secret police agent while Saddam was President.
Namely torture of shiia. Was he charged ? Nope. He was fucking promoted to prime
minister!
In response to the Iraqi secret police, the shiia set up militias to guard their
towns. These shiia militias operated with no law governing their acts. These
same assholes are now employed by the Iraqi goverment as security forces.
Criminals employed by the current government. Who committed atrocities against
sunnis.
Learn some history people. Your cluelessness allows you to be led around by the
nose by pussies like Bush.
Anonymous Report This Comment Date: December 06, 2005 09:07AM
18027, you stupid ignornant cunt - I have read George Orwell's 1984, and it is
the whole point of the quote you stupid dumb brainless cunt.
Truth_from_Georgia Report This Comment Date: December 06, 2005 02:49PM
Is Pride not one of the Seven Deadly Sins?
And what is this drivel about 50 to 150 million killed in conversions? That is
the entire present-day populations of France, Italy and Spain put together.
That is certainly much higher than the entire population of the Roman Empire at
its height. At the birth of Christ, the population of the ENTIRE WORLD is
estimated to have been only 200 to 300 million. And 150 million is higher than
the population of all of Western Europe in the Middle Ages. Use of a little
common sense would be helpful.
fossil_digger Report This Comment Date: December 09, 2005 06:53PM
don't foget to vote on the politics forum folks